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		<title>By: Amar Sanghera</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewkeir.com/copying-an-icon/#comment-6557</link>
		<dc:creator>Amar Sanghera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

I couldn&#039;t agree more, too often copied logos have very small or even no relationship to the original, which is of course bad in its own way as we may not be able to make the connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more, too often copied logos have very small or even no relationship to the original, which is of course bad in its own way as we may not be able to make the connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Keir</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewkeir.com/copying-an-icon/#comment-6539</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Keir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 02:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amar,

&quot;the organisation I used to work for was the University of Westminster Students’ Union, hence why the street sign was copied and it made good sense&quot;

Something like that I can appreciate, where I get lost is seeing an icon like the London Underground copied for restaurants, candy, clothes and a plethora of other odd choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amar,</p>
<p>&#8220;the organisation I used to work for was the University of Westminster Students’ Union, hence why the street sign was copied and it made good sense&#8221;</p>
<p>Something like that I can appreciate, where I get lost is seeing an icon like the London Underground copied for restaurants, candy, clothes and a plethora of other odd choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Amar Sanghera</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewkeir.com/copying-an-icon/#comment-6530</link>
		<dc:creator>Amar Sanghera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also like to add, sometimes it is important to remember there is a difference between ripping something off or copying it in a way which gives a tribute and a complement to the original.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also like to add, sometimes it is important to remember there is a difference between ripping something off or copying it in a way which gives a tribute and a complement to the original.</p>
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		<title>By: Amar Sanghera</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewkeir.com/copying-an-icon/#comment-6529</link>
		<dc:creator>Amar Sanghera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year the local government in London was thinking about copywriting and protecting more of its designs ranging from the TFL tube logos to the Westminster street signs. 

If this actually happened then it would be bad news for people using or selling the many fakes (fake tube designs on hats, clothing, key rings, badges, bits and bobs and many other things and momentos we like to buy when we&#039;re on holiday) as they would have to pay a royalty and lose a significant amount of revenue.

In the end the government decided the not go through with it because it will cause more bad than good to ordinary people, and I agree. I used to work in an organisation where the logo was a copy of the Westminster street sign, if it was copywrited we would of had to do some major rebranding, the street sign logo was very good and is an important asset.

I feel I should add the organisation I used to work for was the University of Westminster Students&#039; Union, hence why the street sign was copied and it made good sense. Instantly recognisable, especially at national conferences where other delegates can easily recognise where we&#039;re from without even reading out logo.

TFL has some great logos and branding, it doesn&#039;t get the credit it deserves sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year the local government in London was thinking about copywriting and protecting more of its designs ranging from the TFL tube logos to the Westminster street signs. </p>
<p>If this actually happened then it would be bad news for people using or selling the many fakes (fake tube designs on hats, clothing, key rings, badges, bits and bobs and many other things and momentos we like to buy when we&#8217;re on holiday) as they would have to pay a royalty and lose a significant amount of revenue.</p>
<p>In the end the government decided the not go through with it because it will cause more bad than good to ordinary people, and I agree. I used to work in an organisation where the logo was a copy of the Westminster street sign, if it was copywrited we would of had to do some major rebranding, the street sign logo was very good and is an important asset.</p>
<p>I feel I should add the organisation I used to work for was the University of Westminster Students&#8217; Union, hence why the street sign was copied and it made good sense. Instantly recognisable, especially at national conferences where other delegates can easily recognise where we&#8217;re from without even reading out logo.</p>
<p>TFL has some great logos and branding, it doesn&#8217;t get the credit it deserves sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Keir</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewkeir.com/copying-an-icon/#comment-2277</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Keir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ewan,
I would think that if you&#039;re using the logo of someone prominent in your field as a base only, by the time you altered it enough to be distinct you might as well have created something original.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ewan,<br />
I would think that if you&#8217;re using the logo of someone prominent in your field as a base only, by the time you altered it enough to be distinct you might as well have created something original.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewkeir.com/copying-an-icon/#comment-2251</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never understood the reason to copy someone elses logo. I can understand using somebodies design as a base if they are associated with a certain type of business and are easily recognisable but still I prefer to be original, helps you stand out from the crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never understood the reason to copy someone elses logo. I can understand using somebodies design as a base if they are associated with a certain type of business and are easily recognisable but still I prefer to be original, helps you stand out from the crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Keir</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewkeir.com/copying-an-icon/#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Keir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sneh,
I have no idea if that&#039;s true but the British rule of India sounds like a logical reason for the same logo. India became independent in the late 40&#039;s so the times align.

Jon,
I&#039;m with you, obviously using simple geometric shapes your bound to find similar designs, but these are pure copies which I&#039;m not a fan off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sneh,<br />
I have no idea if that&#8217;s true but the British rule of India sounds like a logical reason for the same logo. India became independent in the late 40&#8242;s so the times align.</p>
<p>Jon,<br />
I&#8217;m with you, obviously using simple geometric shapes your bound to find similar designs, but these are pure copies which I&#8217;m not a fan off.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Liebold</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewkeir.com/copying-an-icon/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Liebold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re pure rip-offs. The structure is ok to copy somewhat because it is rather obvious and simple. The trick though is the color scheme. Red circle with a blue rectangle containing white text in both the copies and the original logo.

They are copied because the folks utilizing those logos are most likely betting that the familiarity of the London Underground logo will benefit them. I see it a lot with smaller companies especially if they happen to have a commonality in the name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re pure rip-offs. The structure is ok to copy somewhat because it is rather obvious and simple. The trick though is the color scheme. Red circle with a blue rectangle containing white text in both the copies and the original logo.</p>
<p>They are copied because the folks utilizing those logos are most likely betting that the familiarity of the London Underground logo will benefit them. I see it a lot with smaller companies especially if they happen to have a commonality in the name.</p>
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		<title>By: Sneh Roy</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewkeir.com/copying-an-icon/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>Sneh Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in India and in my growing up years I saw this icon on every station in India wherever I went ( Mind you, Indian Railways is the largest employer in the world and there are sooooo many stations ), &lt;a href=&quot;http://imagecache5.art.com/p/MED/21/2164/RIACD00Z/eitan-simanor-close-up-of-a-british-style-station-sign-at-train-station_-darjeeling_-west-bengal-state_-india.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; see one here.&lt;/a&gt;

British ruled India and perhaps this is where these originated. In my mind this icon is associated with a rail stop, any rail stop, a station. It was only after many many years that I realized in the Western world people associated it with The London Underground.

In my travels through South East Asia and now in Australia, I have seen this style being used everywhere from Kid&#039;s Stores http://www.kidscentral.com.au/ to fashion stores to book stores. Till a year ago I actually thought &quot;Oh clever! They are using the railway station sign&quot;.

I think the common man just associates it in that manner. And yes the others are copies, everyone just likes using them and thinks its kind of tongue-in-cheek I reckon.
.-= Sneh Roy´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.littleboxofideas.com/blog/freebies/day-and-night-scenes-fun-free-vectors&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Day And Night Scenes – Fun Free Vectors&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in India and in my growing up years I saw this icon on every station in India wherever I went ( Mind you, Indian Railways is the largest employer in the world and there are sooooo many stations ), <a href="http://imagecache5.art.com/p/MED/21/2164/RIACD00Z/eitan-simanor-close-up-of-a-british-style-station-sign-at-train-station_-darjeeling_-west-bengal-state_-india.jpg" rel="nofollow"> see one here.</a></p>
<p>British ruled India and perhaps this is where these originated. In my mind this icon is associated with a rail stop, any rail stop, a station. It was only after many many years that I realized in the Western world people associated it with The London Underground.</p>
<p>In my travels through South East Asia and now in Australia, I have seen this style being used everywhere from Kid&#8217;s Stores <a href="http://www.kidscentral.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kidscentral.com.au/</a> to fashion stores to book stores. Till a year ago I actually thought &#8220;Oh clever! They are using the railway station sign&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think the common man just associates it in that manner. And yes the others are copies, everyone just likes using them and thinks its kind of tongue-in-cheek I reckon.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Sneh Roy´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.littleboxofideas.com/blog/freebies/day-and-night-scenes-fun-free-vectors" rel="nofollow">Day And Night Scenes – Fun Free Vectors</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.andrewkeir.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Keir</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewkeir.com/copying-an-icon/#comment-906</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Keir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,
I&#039;m thinking the same thing.

Stan G,
You&#039;re right that every person isn&#039;t going to know the original logo and might not recognize a copy, but I definitely think it&#039;s recognizable enough not to use it.

Julie,
Oops, got my dates mixed up there somewhere. The correct information is now there, thanks for the catch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,<br />
I&#8217;m thinking the same thing.</p>
<p>Stan G,<br />
You&#8217;re right that every person isn&#8217;t going to know the original logo and might not recognize a copy, but I definitely think it&#8217;s recognizable enough not to use it.</p>
<p>Julie,<br />
Oops, got my dates mixed up there somewhere. The correct information is now there, thanks for the catch.</p>
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